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Korbin Valenroth
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Posted - 2012.05.25 21:55:00 -
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YuuKnow wrote:Tifin'a Ach'ing wrote:IMO
The ideal of Caldari honor is reflected in the sentiment of, State before Self.
Tif
That's more of a communist than a capitalist attitude. Wouldn't "Corp before self" be more inline with the canon? yk
Not really, The mega corporation was something that was introduced to the Caldari when the Gallente annexed their civilazation. |

Korbin Valenroth
White Mango
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Posted - 2012.05.25 22:49:00 -
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There is little lore on the Caldari before they were annexed by the Gallente. What we do know is that they lived in a brutal environment that required them to form a strict ethic of cooperation and hierarchry. Also we know that there were a number of empires thoughout Caldari history that relied on meritocracy to function, much like ancient China. After the Gallente Annex the Caldari adapted to the Gallente mega-corporation concept to be more like the empires of old. |

Korbin Valenroth
White Mango
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Posted - 2012.05.26 18:44:00 -
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Evet Morrel wrote:Korbin Valenroth wrote:YuuKnow wrote:Tifin'a Ach'ing wrote:IMO
The ideal of Caldari honor is reflected in the sentiment of, State before Self.
Tif
That's more of a communist than a capitalist attitude. Wouldn't "Corp before self" be more inline with the canon? yk Not really, The mega corporation was something that was introduced to the Caldari when the Gallente annexed their civilazation. Well I don't know the lore so you'll have to cite authority, links for dates, but I believe that the corporations, their exploration and settlements, predate Caldari entry into the Gallente federation, and even the federation itself. "By the time the Gallente Federation was founded two centuries ago the Caldari Corporations were already well established in Caldari society. Although not nearly as powerful as they are today, they were still preeminent in Caldari economic life." THE EARLY DAYS (CHRONICLE)
Corporations yes, mega-corporations no. |

Korbin Valenroth
White Mango
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Posted - 2012.05.27 19:32:00 -
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Evet Morrel wrote:I'll take this as stated opinion since you haven't cited your source. However, since every society has been feudal at some point the resemblance you allude to is, to my mind, indicative of a degenerated state.
"By the time the Gallente Federation was founded two centuries ago the Caldari Corporations were already well established in Caldari society. Although not nearly as powerful as they are today, they were still preeminent in Caldari economic life." THE EARLY DAYS (CHRONICLE)
The word preeminent in the chronicle is reasonable to read as meaning: as powerful as they might be within the constraints of democracy. The capitalisation of the word Corporations in the phrase Caldari Corporations is also significant, grammatically speaking it means those Caldari corporations known to us.
Ha, now we are just talking semantics. |
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